- Forum Fri, 27 Apr 2018 00:34:41 -0400 Kunena 1.6 - Forum en-gb Subject: Put handle here to improve your skiing. - by: BudDavis and


Put handle here to improve your skiing.

The handle placement is more important than many realize. To some skiers, if the handle is in their hands, that is all that matters.

If your shoulders and arms are relaxed, your arms become and extension of the rope, and the boat is pulling you from your shoulders, which pulls your ski flat and down course.

As crazy as this may sound to some, we should be excreting a tremendous force in our shoulders and arms to PUSH THE HANDLE DOWN. If you have never done this before, you will feel it to be impossible. You might push it down for a few seconds, and then it will come right back up. You have to continually work on it to make any progress. Have the boat crew keep reminding you.

The reality is; if you push the handle down, the pull from the boat is lower in your body, and therefore it will be easier to be on edge, create cross course angle and get wide. Edge change will become easier, smoother and more effective. You will become more confident and comfortable.

So you may ask; when do I push the handle down. If you are skiing long line; then the whole time. If you are skiing short line; you lift your handle up and forward for a very short moment right when you are at the turn buoy. Otherwise, PUSH THE HANDLE DOWN.

Not to confuse the issue, but as you gain the strength to push the handle down, you will then start pushing it down and to the side to give you even more cross course and outbound direction.

Any question or comments?]]>
Tech Talk Sat, 21 Apr 2018 08:35:19 -0400
Subject: Another step to improve your skiing. - by: BudDavis

Another step to improve your skiing

With this position, you do not need extra height or extra strength. However, you need to be able to STOP doing something. Many of us find that we have done it for so long it is very, very hard to stop. Before you read farther, do you know what it is?

Look at the following video and see if you can point out what these two world champion record holders are NOT doing. (Nate Smith and Brook Baldwin.) Brook is only 17 years old and broke the Girls 3 record in 2016 with 1 at 41off/10.25m.

You should notice in that video, those two champions are not pulling past the center line. In some wake crossings, you can see the ski on one edge approaching the wake, then the ski change edges IN THE AIR, and then lands on the turning edge. Notice what happened to Brook when you did not see the top of her ski as quickly as Nates ski into #1 at 38off.

If you think that technique is only for the short line, fast speed; then look at this video of of a skier at 15off/18.25m 28.6mph/46kph compared to Nate Smith 38off 36mph.

We have a natural tendency to pull longer because we are thinking about getting to the turn buoy. We also sometimes feel we need to pull longer because we did not adequately build speed out of the buoy and into the wake. We also feel like we need to pull longer because our brake is on and we are losing our speed. It is easier to build necessary speed without the brake on, as well as glide out to and around the buoy without our brake on.

I believe once you learn to ski without your brakes, you will then be able to practice changing edges at centerline and skiing better. Remember, if you change edges at centerline, you can more easily ski out bound to finish your turn at the buoy and set yourself up for more speed into the center line. If you change edges later, your direction will be more down course, with more down course speed, making you start your turn at the buoy and finishing it down course. That leaves little time to build any speed into the center line.

The next time someone tells you to pull through the wakes, or pull to the edge of the foam, have them watch these videos. There are successful skiers pulling long, and I believe that is a technique that does work for some. I do not believe it is the most efficient way to ski.

Does that make sense?

Any questions or comments?]]>
Tech Talk Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:56:11 -0400
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Subject: Ski testing - Radar Vapor 2018 VIDEO - by: BudDavis
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Subject: LATROBE 2018 SLALOM FINAL VIDEO - by: BudDavis
Tournament Talk Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:18:22 -0400
Subject: How to improve your skiing. - by: BudDavis
If you took two identical skiers, same size, skill and ski, and change only one particular thing, you could see a huge difference in their performance. What particular thing comes to your mind?

It is which foot is weighted. Weighting the back foot, is applying brakes to the ski.

Think about it this way. Take two identical bikers, same size, skill and bike, and change only one particular thing. Add a little bit of brakes. Now, have them pedal for 34 feet and coast for 66 feet. Which one would win the 100 foot race every time? It is less efficient to accelerate and to coast with brakes on.

We should generate speed from the buoy into the center line. We should coast out and around the buoy. Adding brakes to our ski by weighting our back foot hurts both of these aspects.

The problem in studding skiers to learn from their styles, is no two are identical to each other or to us. You can find some strong skiers weighting their back foot and skiing very well. That does not mean we need to ski on our back foot to ski well.

To ski more efficiently, we should be vertical and balanced over our front foot. Most people will have to bend their front ankle and raise their rear heel to get into this position. Most people feel exposed and unprotected when first trying to ski this way. It is a natural and more secure feeling to lean on the back foot adding brakes and protecting ourselves from an OTF (out the front).

If it is security you are looking for, then stay off the water. But if you want to ski better, try what I said above. The more you ski that way, the more natural it will feel.

Good luck.

What are your thoughts?]]>
Tech Talk Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:32:34 -0400
Subject: Speed control systems - by: GaryMoore
Tech Talk Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:04:04 -0400
Subject: 2018 Moomba Masters Scores - by: TravisTorley

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Tournament Talk Thu, 08 Mar 2018 18:28:07 -0500
Subject: Latrobe webcast - by: TravisTorley]]> Tournament Talk Sat, 03 Mar 2018 18:08:24 -0500 Subject: Travers Grand Prix - by: TravisTorley]]> Tournament Talk Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:20:33 -0500 Subject: CC 200 Props - by: Ed Johnson The boat originally came with a Acme 654. I was told at Nationals a couple years a go by a reputable Nautique tech, that I should change props for a much better pull and lower RPM's.
One of the Big Dawg Drivers had switched his boat to a Acme 422, that I skied behind, and it was a better pull. So I tried one behind my boat, and I found I could get much more lean. That led to a conversation with one of the most knowledgeable Nautique tech's, that said that an even more advanced prop was now available. That was the Acme 668. Basically a 422 with more cup. He stated it was a huge advancement in ZO pull quality and would lower RPM's by 200 at all speeds.
I purchased a new one, installed it, and WOW, what a difference. Gives you more time off the ball to get into your leveraged position. More lean, earlier at the ball, and a much smoother pull. I am no longer being harshly pulled up out of my lean by ZO. This is huge!!!
Just wanted to pass this on.

PS: I was also told that switching to the single puck on ZO with it's new program, was equally a much better pull. Hope to try that also.]]>
Tech Talk Sat, 10 Feb 2018 22:54:46 -0500
Subject: Happy New Year - by: BudDavis
"Today you're the oldest that you've ever been and the youngest that you'll ever be."

Set your sight on a reasonable and realistic goal, and you will probably accomplish it.

I suggest you video a lot (if not all) of your skiing and try to improve your form. If you do, you will probably reach your goal every time you hit the water, and your byproduct will be more buoys this year.

Good luck, and many blessings to all of you.]]>
Miscellaneous Mon, 01 Jan 2018 17:54:20 -0500
Subject: Merry Christmas - by: BudDavis
I hope all who are traveling during these holidays have a safe trip too and from.]]>
Miscellaneous Sun, 24 Dec 2017 12:05:39 -0500
Subject: Simple design for a Tracking Pylon Camera Mount - by: BudDavis Click here to see all the pictures.

Here is a design for a PVC Pylon tracking camera mount that works better than any I have ever used. Slade Cole came to ski with me and brought one that he built for his tablet, and extra types of cameras. His worked very well.

I wanted to condense his design somewhat and present to everyone, so they could easily put one together for themselves with parts and pieces cheaply accessible.

This device can be used with plain ski rope attached to the pylon. The device will need to be lifted two inches while changing rope. However, I like to use a switch section with a piece of shock tube and carabiner. Two big advantages of this are: 1) It makes the loop you are skiing visible to the camera. And 2) More easily change line lengths. I remove the 41 off loop from my ropes to compensate. The 41 off loop can be attached to the start of the rope and used as a cinch when transporting the coiled rope.

I drilled the two holes with a hole saw, that turned out to be a little bit too small. It works fine for me, since I use the switch rope. This holes can easily be cut out with a regular saw if you do not have access to a hold saw. You basically need room for your fingers while leaving some support on the two sides.

Mounting the camera can be done with various types of mounts in the holes in the snap-in drain. The choices on Ebay are almost infinite. Start searching for GoPro type mounts, and you will be led to many.

Most plumbers and electricians throw away short pieces of PVC pipe. White drain pipe and gray electric conduit work equally well.

Materials needed:
• About 20 inch piece of 3 inch PVC pipe.
• 3 inch Snap-in drain.
• 10 inch bolt and nuts (or threaded rod). This could be covered with vinyl tube to smooth it up.
• 6 in corner brace. (I used a locking slide from a garage door.)
• 6 nylon 1/4 inch thumb screws. (Grainger sells 10 pack for $2.58.)
• 3 inch piece of foam pipe insulation.
• 1 foot of bungee cord.]]>
Miscellaneous Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:07:07 -0500
Subject: 2018 Nautique Big Dawg Tour Schedule Set - by: BudDavis

Nautique, a Premier Sponsor of USA Water Ski, has announced the dates and locations for the 2018 Nautique Big Dawg World Tour, presented by O’Brien. As the premier tour for 34 mph slalom skiers across the globe who are over age 35, the Big Dawg World Tour is towed exclusively by the record-setting Ski Nautique 200. Each stop will include two rounds of 34 mph slalom action, followed by a bracketed 16-skier head-to-head finale. The tour will include four qualifying stops at premier water ski venues as the top slalom skiers battle it out for a spot in the Big Dawg World Tour Finals.

Stop No. 1 will be held May 5-6 at Okeeheelee Park in West Palm Beach, Fla.;
Stop No. 2 will be held June 16-17 at Cedar Ridge Ski Club in Canton, Miss.;
Stop No. 3 will take place June 30-July 1 at Sesena Water Ski Complex in Sesena, Toledo, Spain;
Stop No. 4 will be held Aug. 25-26 at Laku Landing in Windsor, Colo.;
and the Finals will take place Sept. 8-9 at Lake JePaWhit in Gaines, Mich.

“O'Brien is excited to be supporting the Nautique Big Dawg World Tour in 2018,” said O’Brien General Manager Pete Surrette. “As the premier tour for the 34 mph slalom skiers who are over 35, the Big Dawg is a great showcase for water skiing.”

“The Nautique Big Dawg World Tour is an elite series that brings together some of the top slalom skiers from around the globe,” said Nautique President Greg Meloon. “With the support of O’Brien, we’re glad to see this series carry on in 2018.”

Registration will open Jan. 15. For more information, please visit]]>
Tournament Talk Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:42:09 -0500
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving - by: BudDavis
I hope you can take time to ski a set sometime today.]]>
Miscellaneous Thu, 23 Nov 2017 12:31:31 -0500
Subject: Driver requirement - by: TravisTorley Thanks
Tournament Talk Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:52:22 -0500
Subject: Reflection - by: BudDavis
Have any of you tried to capture reflections off of glass?

Share some pictures of your skiing.]]>
Pictures Sat, 11 Nov 2017 08:35:45 -0500
Subject: Cash Prize Slalom Tournament 2017 - by: BudDavis
The fifth annual Cash Prize Slalom Tournament was held Saturday September 9th at Bud Lake and went off without a hitch despite the threat of Hurricane Irma.

In addition to the handicap system where skiers equally competed for cash, there were eight junior skiers competing for trophies. See picture. All skiers and guest were treated to a barbeque lunch, as well as snacks and drinks all day. All skiers and officials got a tournament t-shirt and skiers also received a goody bag with gifts, most valued up to $50.00.

Brian Sparks was the high scorer for the day with 4 buoys at 10.75m/39.5off with Jeff Gilbert and Chelsea Mills also nipping at his heels on the same loop.

Tournament sponsors were Advanced Dental Center of Florence, Miami Nautique International and Seth Stisher sent some swag for the skiers.

Here are links to all three:]]>
Tech Talk Tue, 12 Sep 2017 10:14:38 -0400
Subject: water ski lake locations inland from Cape Hatteres - by: GaryMoore Ski Talk Mon, 04 Sep 2017 16:05:16 -0400 Subject: 2018 Radar Lithium Senate first impressions review - by: escmanaze
Well I got to take out my new ski today. Sorry I couldn't get any video because only the wife and 4 year old were with me. I do have some initial thoughts, that I'm hoping stand the test of time as they are mostly all positive.

My first pass I ran 30 mph -15. This is usually a pretty easy pass for me and I don't really miss them. However, after going through, I asked my wife if the perfect pass actually held speed through the course expecting her to say that it didn't, and it was going slow. Nope, she said it held great, and I was immediately wondering if this was the best money ever spent.

From there, though, we went to 32 mph -15 where I usually get maybe half my passes. It kind of blew up in my face. The ski was different enough that pass after pass, my timing just seemed to rarely be right due to all the new found speed I had just suddenly come up with. I was pumped to have the speed because when I demo'd the CX superlight in May, that was my one big takeaway was that the ski was super fast, and I felt like with a little practice I could turn that into a good thing and I was kind of sad at my skis for not generating that much speed that easily. So I'm staying positive because I'm excited to have this extra speed, but at the same time, it is ruining my passes because it seems I have to completely recalibrate all my timing. So my skiing for the remainder of the 2 sets was pretty rough as I'm trying figure out timing.

Then on my third set, it all came together. I felt like I was finally getting my timing together and the passes started feeling really good. I only took 3 passes on this set because I was very tired, but on the third one, I felt comfortable enough to take Will Ashers advice from the Demo day in May to reach more at the balls. This was just another step in the right direction as it seemed to help me manage the new found speed better and I finished on a 3 pass set running all 3 really solid with my last pass being the best of all of them.

This ski seems to be a perfect middle ground between my two old skis (2012 69" Senate and 2012 68" Vice-C). The old Senate always felt great at 28 mph and 30 mph, but felt like it started shying away from getting too aggressive on my 32 mph pass. It felt like I didn't have to tug so hard to get cross-course speed, but once I got out to the turn with all that speed, it didn't seem super excited to rip an aggressive turn too tight. The Vice-C was the opposite. It had no problem turning, but it seemed to just want me to be a lot stronger person than I am in order to generate good cross-course speed. With that ski I could ski it OK if I was fresh, but it wore me out really quickly as I am quite a weakling. This new Senate seems to be a really good compromise on the turning, not quite as sticky in the turns as the Vice-C, but a good amount better than the old Senate. It might be better than both of them at generating speed. Still not as fast as that superfast CX superlite, much faster than the old two skis and the speed seems easier to generate.

So I think in the end, the Vice-C was just too advanced for me. I'll probably sell the Vice-C to somebody who is a better skier than me and hope this new Senate can take me to 34 mph and then maybe even get to -22 before thinking about the next ski. I'll keep the old 69" Senate around in case I get fat or rusty again and need to be running 28 mph and also keep it around because it seems to be a really good ski for a bunch of my buddies getting started into the course going 26 mph.]]>
Ski Talk Sun, 03 Sep 2017 00:37:58 -0400
Subject: Handle guards - by: TravisTorley
but it did prompt me to order a handle guard. Is there a better way than zip ties? I hate the look and zip ties usually have a sharp edge on them. Was thinking of trying to fid a piece of rope through the handle to attach. So what's your methods?]]>
Tech Talk Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:51:43 -0400
Subject: ​Queens​ ​Cup​ ​2017 - by: BudDavis The second annual Queens Cup slalom
tournament for women is
just around the corner, with Little Mountain Lake ready for an
encore performance on
Sept. 16-17 near Charlotte, North Carolina, aka the Queen City.
With support from Race City Marine of NASCAR-rich
Mooresville, North Carolina,
and towed by Nautique, the $10,000 cash-and-prizes event will
be open to women
who ski in 30-, 32- and 34-mph age groups.
The inaugural Queens Cup in 2016 drew skiers from throughout
the United States
and into Canada. The tournament is designed to parallel the
men’s Big Dawg World
Tour and give women an opportunity to take center stage at an
elite, world-record ski
site. It will also provide women something to train for beyond
one-round events like
regionals and nationals, which typically have low turnouts in
women’s divisions.
With a projected field of 30 to 35 skiers, the Queens Cup will
have a guaranteed
two-round minimum, with Saturday qualifying rounds leading to
a Sweet 16 head-to-head Sunday final. The inaugural Queens
Cup proved that a 50-something
skier -- in this case Joy Kelley of Tennessee -- could go up
against a 30-something
skier -- Josefin Hirst of Florida -- in the final. Boat speed was
the only handicap as
Kelley’s scores at 32 mph counted the same as Hirst’s 34-mph
The 2016 Queens Cup included women in every age group from
their 30s to their 70s.
Entry fee is $150 and includes the Saturday night barbecue
banquet, where
top scores for the day’s 30-, 32- and 34-mph skiers will be
announced. The top three skiers of the day, based on a handicap
system that takes into account each skier's average score for the
past year, will also be announced and prizes awarded.
The bracketed
field of 16 for Sunday will also be announced.
For more information, contact tournament director Jeff Gilbert
at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or do a tournament search at You can also follow on Facebook at Little
Mountain Lakes Waterski.]]>
Tournament Talk Tue, 29 Aug 2017 16:52:55 -0400
Subject: 2017 BIG DAWG WORLD TOUR FINALS [Live Video] - by: BudDavis


2017 World Tour Finals Skiers List

Greg Badal
Ivan Morris
Jeff Rogers
Chad Scott
Marc Shaw
Greg Sund
Seth Stisher
Tim Henderson
Bruce Dodd
Frederic Halt
Jason Seels
Todd Kuykendall
Don Aschenbrenner
Mike Collombin
Dave Miller
Todd Johnson
Harald Hintringer
Scott Larson
Kevin Bishop
Dave Miller
Kyle Tate
Ben Favret
Barton Rachwal
Dave Goode]]>
Tournament Talk Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:53:27 -0400
Subject: 15th California Pro Am This Weekend [Live Video] - by: BudDavis

Some of the world's top men's and women's slalom skiers will vie for respective titles Friday through Sunday at the 15th California Water Ski Pro Am, presented by Nautique, at Bell Acqua Lakes in Rio Linda, Calif.


Registered skiers


Josh Badal
Nadine Botas
Will Bush
George Canepa
Steve Cesnauskas
Janie Fausold
Ken Ferrante
Denise Goldman
Jeff Goldman
Randy Grubbs
Bob Hardeman
John Haw
John Horton
Sherri Kerth
Kevin Lee
Stephanie Lee
Owen Letcher
Mike Martens
Jason Marvin
Paul Matthews
Richelle Muhlitner
Ryan Nason
David O'Kain
Don Standford
Judy Stanford
Pete Vaio
Tim Vaio
Ty Vaio
Gary Wallace
Eric Yamasaki

Open Men

Nick Adams
Carlo Allais
Will Asher
Ryan Canepa
Thomas DeGasperi
Brian Detrick
Cole Giacopuzzi
Joel Howley
Jason McClintock
Stephen Neveu
Daniel Odvarko
Chris Parrish
Nick Parsons
Nate Smith
Jonathan Travers
Corey Vaughn
Terry Winter
Tyler Yager
Danny Goldman
Martin Bartalsky
Ben Stadlbaur
Tom Brantley

Open Women

Brooke Baldwin
Karen Truelove-Krueger
Jenna Morgan
Makayla Haw]]>
Tournament Talk Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:49:55 -0400